#85579 - 05/29/10 10:39 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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STM
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Using the same flights, you'd think they could offer to Depart on 9, 10, 11 and return on June 22
(I guess thatshould be written in the past tense)
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#85580 - 05/29/10 10:44 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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Patti.
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Oh please! A majority??? Maybe the 7 days, yes....but 4, 5, or 6??? I don't think so!
I think it is very likely that a good percentage of people stay for 7 nights. That is a typical vacation for many. BUT...this sale isn't even for 7 nights!!! It's only for 4, 5, or 6 nights! PLUS...you have to spend one of those nights in Tahiti.
I agree the largest percentage of people do not buy a package for 10 days or more....at least not Americans. BUT...if they're going to have a short stay sale, then at least make it for 8-10 days. At least THAT would cover the majority of vacationers.
I would love to see those statistics. They obviously have the numbers, because we all fill out those tourist cards when we visit....regarding the length of our stay. I would love to see what those numbers actually show. I would bet my life they don't show a majority of people staying LESS than 7 nights!!!
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#85581 - 05/29/10 11:06 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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BarbiJKM
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Patti,
I once found online a very extensive marketing report done for Tahiti Tourisme (and unfortunately, can't find it again now). It calculated all those tourist card results as well as info from hotels and airlines, and concluded that, although 45% of tourists were honeymooners/first time visitors, the remaining 55% were repeat visitors/retired folks/cruise passengers.
Now we all know that repeat visitors as well as cruise passengers stay for more than 6 nights! It doesn't take a rocket scientist...
Everyone should get on Facebook and leave a comment about wishing this was for a longer stay, and that 6 days max is TOO restrictive! Here is the link: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Air-Tahiti-Nui-USA/111873023565
There are 25 comments right now (Sat a.m.)to their explanation of the 6 day limit -- let's DOUBLE or TRIPLE it! Protest, guys!
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#85583 - 05/29/10 11:14 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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BarbiJKM
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Patti, To make it even worse, ATN's FB page is referring people to easytahiti for accomodations. We know they are getting TERRIBLE comments on Trip Advisor! Stay away... use Yves on this website if you book this fare and need accomodations!
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#85584 - 05/29/10 11:31 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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Patti.
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I understand they are trying to fill seats on some upcoming flights that have an excess of seats on certain flights. BUT...why not just offer to leave on a Wed-Thurs-Fri...and then return on a Tues. That way, people can make it as long or short as they want. It fills the seats on the slow days and people get to choose how long they want to stay.
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#85585 - 05/29/10 11:34 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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BarbiJKM
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I just found some statistics from the Instit de la Statistiques de la Polynesie Francaise that indicate the average stay in FP for North Americans is between 10 and 11 days. http://www.ispf.pf/ISPF/EnqRep/EnquTour/EFT/EFTStat.aspx
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#85586 - 05/29/10 11:47 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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Finnano
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I am just getting so annoyed with ATN...their comments on Facebook about "the average stay" etc., jeeezzz.
With the tourism way down, WHY do they keep insisting on those short stays??
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#85587 - 05/29/10 11:49 AM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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Patti.
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Barbi~ the thing is....they will sell a lot of the seats with this sale. Yes, they could very likely sell more with a longer stay sale. BUT...they will get people to bite. They always do. And as long as they always get enough people to bite at these short stay sales, they'll just keep doing them.
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#85588 - 05/29/10 12:10 PM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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BarbiJKM
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Here are the statistics for duration of tourists' stays in FP from 2007 to 2010: In 2010, North Americans averaged 10.2 nights; overall, all tourists averaged 14.4 nights.
I don't know where ATN is getting its numbers?
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Nombre de touristes Nuitées touristiques Durée moyenne de séjour
2007 2008 2009 2010
Afrique 18,6 16,0 15,5 14,0
Amérique Centrale 11,2 10,4 10,3 8,4
Amérique du Nord 10,3 10,6 10,4 10,2
Amérique du Sud 11,7 11,3 10,9 10,9
Asie 7,5 6,6 6,8 6,9
Europe (hors France) 12,7 11,9 12,2 11,7
France 24,3 23,7 23,9 25,9
Pacifique 10,1 10,2 11,3 11,8
Proche et Moyen Orient 12,6 12,4 11,8 11,3
Grand Total 13,3 13,2 13,7 14,4
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#85589 - 05/29/10 12:13 PM
Re: ATN's "Midnight Madness" 24-hour Facebook Sale
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BarbiJKM
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SUCCESS! Here is ATN's latest Facebook posting, extending the stay limits on this special!
"Air Tahiti Nui USAThank you for all of you who have booked the Midnight Madness sale. For all of those who wanted to stay longer, we have exciting news. You now can choose any combination of the designated outbound dates with the later retun date of 22JUN for stay up to 13 days. For these variations, please call our reservation office at 877-824-4846 until 5:00PM PST today.7 minutes ago
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